Final Report, the Eleventh from Lebanon: Interview with Hajje Rima Facky
September 27, 2006
Samia A. Halaby
On Monday September 25, 2006, our delegation had the opportunity to interview Hajje Rima Fackry, member of the Political Council of Hisbullah. The following report is based on my notes which do not represent direct, accurate quotations of Hajjer Rima.
I asked her if she saw a contradiction between a strong Lebanese government and the people’s movement noting that Nasrallah had on the Friday before said that Hisbullah wants a strong clean government and urges everyone to work towards it. I also asked since Nasrallah had correctly said that the differences between parties in Lebanon were political not sectarian, would Hisbullah consider going further and making a class analysis on that basis
Her reply was that there is no contradiction between a people’s movement and a strong state. We are and are with the huge majority of the population. We hope that working together as a people we can make a strong state. We have much in common and we want equality before the law. Some institutions of the government seem not to serve or to serve only some. A strong government, not loyal first to the US or Europe or Israel, but above all loyal to the Lebanese people, is what we want. Most Lebanese do not want interference from the East or from the west. Those who see Iran as our maker talk nonsense. I find no contradiction between a people’s movement and a strong state after all we are the people of the state.
Hisbullah has rules for being a member but it does not mean we do not have relations with others. We have relations with Awn and with the Druze. What we are interested in are wider relations with the sects because we need Lebanon strong.
Our capabilities are limited. We believe our basic rule is that all in the world are human and related regardless of religion or belief or lack of it. We are doing out best. We wish others to do the same.
I asked Hajje Rima How the Hisb sees the fact that they have become an international force and have inspired people everywhere to seek liberation. How do they view themselves in an international role?
International liberation is not our duty but the duty but of all peoples. Each state has its people and they must liberate themselves.
A member of the delegation asked about women in the party.
We have a duty to communicate with other people. We believe Islam must speak to all people. We, as Moslems, believe in freedom, rights, and equality. For us it is not strange that there is a woman in the leadership of Hisbullah. We have had women from the very beginning. We have women who work, doctors, nurses, teachers, engineers. We have no problem with women. The right to work and earn money is a right for womem. And the right to work in politics is also a right for women. But we do have rules. One of them is the wearing of the Hijab. Half of Hisbullah’s membership is women.
What can we do for Hisbullah outside in our own countries?
Clarify our point of view. Know what we say and what is our reality in Lebanon. Work to expose the government and leadership in the USA, expose their ties with Zinists here. I do not understand how the American people allow their money, the money of the people, to be used to kill people in other lands.
When people know the reality, they move against those regimes.
We in Hisbullah know that the American leadership will not leave us alone. I follow their think-tanks in the US by reading their web pages. They think that Hisbullah’s rapid building (jihad al Bina’) of homes, clearing the rubble and helping people, is a problem and they think that money should be donated to go directly to the government so that the government will be the one seen as helping the people.
They are preparing militarily against Syria and Iran and they think we will defend them; but we chose our time. We are living in a time when foolish people and foolish leadership control the huge weapons of the US
The US politicians, both democrats and republicants, both want Jews on their side and both support Israel. They do not see or know that the relationship between the people and Nasrallah is symbiotic.
Nasrallah feels that it is a historic time, a turning point for the Arab world, and he meant to say -- look how we were able to stand up to them, do not be afraid of Israel.
How did we use the events and changes in the year 2000 when Israel was thrown out? It too was a turning point and the Palestinians used this and began their second Intifada. Nasralah was urging the governments of the Arab regimes adjoining Palestine not even to help but to just allow weapons to pass to them., The resistance in Gaza is good but it lacks weapons. They invented the Qassam missile but it is not accurate, nor very strong.
A disaster is happening in Ghazze. The resistance is good but do not have good weapons. They are surrounded. The Israelies are killing women and children and all people and demolishing homes.
I asked if Hisbullah will attempt to Liberate those Lebanese villages that were occupied in 1948. Nasrallah mentioned only the Shab’a farms.
She said no, and added that the government of Lebanon in the cease fire agreement only mentioned the Shab’a farms as occupied and did not say anymore and thus we, as Hisbullah promised to obey the government. We can only fight for Shab’a
September 27, 2006
Samia A. Halaby
On Monday September 25, 2006, our delegation had the opportunity to interview Hajje Rima Fackry, member of the Political Council of Hisbullah. The following report is based on my notes which do not represent direct, accurate quotations of Hajjer Rima.
I asked her if she saw a contradiction between a strong Lebanese government and the people’s movement noting that Nasrallah had on the Friday before said that Hisbullah wants a strong clean government and urges everyone to work towards it. I also asked since Nasrallah had correctly said that the differences between parties in Lebanon were political not sectarian, would Hisbullah consider going further and making a class analysis on that basis
Her reply was that there is no contradiction between a people’s movement and a strong state. We are and are with the huge majority of the population. We hope that working together as a people we can make a strong state. We have much in common and we want equality before the law. Some institutions of the government seem not to serve or to serve only some. A strong government, not loyal first to the US or Europe or Israel, but above all loyal to the Lebanese people, is what we want. Most Lebanese do not want interference from the East or from the west. Those who see Iran as our maker talk nonsense. I find no contradiction between a people’s movement and a strong state after all we are the people of the state.
Hisbullah has rules for being a member but it does not mean we do not have relations with others. We have relations with Awn and with the Druze. What we are interested in are wider relations with the sects because we need Lebanon strong.
Our capabilities are limited. We believe our basic rule is that all in the world are human and related regardless of religion or belief or lack of it. We are doing out best. We wish others to do the same.
I asked Hajje Rima How the Hisb sees the fact that they have become an international force and have inspired people everywhere to seek liberation. How do they view themselves in an international role?
International liberation is not our duty but the duty but of all peoples. Each state has its people and they must liberate themselves.
A member of the delegation asked about women in the party.
We have a duty to communicate with other people. We believe Islam must speak to all people. We, as Moslems, believe in freedom, rights, and equality. For us it is not strange that there is a woman in the leadership of Hisbullah. We have had women from the very beginning. We have women who work, doctors, nurses, teachers, engineers. We have no problem with women. The right to work and earn money is a right for womem. And the right to work in politics is also a right for women. But we do have rules. One of them is the wearing of the Hijab. Half of Hisbullah’s membership is women.
What can we do for Hisbullah outside in our own countries?
Clarify our point of view. Know what we say and what is our reality in Lebanon. Work to expose the government and leadership in the USA, expose their ties with Zinists here. I do not understand how the American people allow their money, the money of the people, to be used to kill people in other lands.
When people know the reality, they move against those regimes.
We in Hisbullah know that the American leadership will not leave us alone. I follow their think-tanks in the US by reading their web pages. They think that Hisbullah’s rapid building (jihad al Bina’) of homes, clearing the rubble and helping people, is a problem and they think that money should be donated to go directly to the government so that the government will be the one seen as helping the people.
They are preparing militarily against Syria and Iran and they think we will defend them; but we chose our time. We are living in a time when foolish people and foolish leadership control the huge weapons of the US
The US politicians, both democrats and republicants, both want Jews on their side and both support Israel. They do not see or know that the relationship between the people and Nasrallah is symbiotic.
Nasrallah feels that it is a historic time, a turning point for the Arab world, and he meant to say -- look how we were able to stand up to them, do not be afraid of Israel.
How did we use the events and changes in the year 2000 when Israel was thrown out? It too was a turning point and the Palestinians used this and began their second Intifada. Nasralah was urging the governments of the Arab regimes adjoining Palestine not even to help but to just allow weapons to pass to them., The resistance in Gaza is good but it lacks weapons. They invented the Qassam missile but it is not accurate, nor very strong.
A disaster is happening in Ghazze. The resistance is good but do not have good weapons. They are surrounded. The Israelies are killing women and children and all people and demolishing homes.
I asked if Hisbullah will attempt to Liberate those Lebanese villages that were occupied in 1948. Nasrallah mentioned only the Shab’a farms.
She said no, and added that the government of Lebanon in the cease fire agreement only mentioned the Shab’a farms as occupied and did not say anymore and thus we, as Hisbullah promised to obey the government. We can only fight for Shab’a
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